tanja ostojic

Interview
with Tanja Ostojic

How would you define the relation between your work and political action?
I have a problem with what passes for “general awareness” in the world because politics consists in what the media doles out to readers, viewers and listeners. I’m interested in a constructive criticism of society in the widest sense. Politically engaged art is just a part of this criticism. But as I also insist on staying out of the world of politics, I am freer to express myself through the “works on my own head, like hairstyles. Posters, flyers, postcards, street actions, situational works, artist statements allow me to construct informal platforms for discussion, within an exhibition space, on the Internet or wherever I am. “There is no rest until renovation is on” an exhibition I performed in Belgrade and Novi Sad last December, was very successful in this way: people and groups of students came to see works, read publications and talked until midnight.

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What kind of reaction would you like to provoke in the viewers?

I want to provoke the opening of one’s mind or perception to something that s/he has maybe not thought of, or experienced, or was not aware of before. Although my experience tells me that art cannot quickly change social or political reality, it’s important that it is not apolitical. Art sometimes opens up certain questions; it can even offer different value systems from current mainstream trends.
During last summer, for example, I did three works embodying, with a bit of irony and (black) humour, the frustration of dealing with the world when you have a Yugoslavian passport. The first was “Illegal Border Crossing,” a three-day action on the Slovenian/Austrian border. “Waiting for a Visa” took place in front of the Austrian consulate in Belgrade--a six hours queuing action, with no results. Finally, “Looking for a husband with EU passport” was an interactive web project [link], still in progress.

Was it your first Internet project?
My “Three/Free postcards” project, 2000, is also connected to the web www.galerija.skuc-drustvo.si/ostojic. The statements are in Serbian ("I do not allow my work to be used by the leading politics!”), in German Austrian ("I don’t want my art work to be used as a proof of political pluralism" - I did it when I was invited to exhibit in Carinthia, the area where Georg Haider is most popular) and in Albanian ("I do not want my work to be used for the purposes of political trends"): this critical statement was initiated by an informal invitation to participate in the new Biennale of Tirana, which is, in my opinion, pretty “politically correct” idea.

Do you feel any specific closeness to any performer of the past generation? You titled “Josephine Beuys” one of your actions.
The early works of Ulay fascinate me; he used to integrate himself entirely into marginal social groups, like homeless people. I also like Joseph Beuys’ projects against the system, his lectures and talks. Actually, I did two actions inspired by him. Beuys organized the “Box Match for Direct Democracy” with the dean of Düsseldorf Art Academy. I did mine with the policemen on the streets of Belgrade in 1997, during a three-day-and-night-long blockade of the main square. Offering boxing gloves, I asked them to fight directly for democracy; no one accepted, so I did promotional mach in front of cordon with a friend.
Josephine Beuys first appeared, as far as I know, in 1973, when Beuys signed his letter to the influential Serbian artist Rasa Todosijevic –Your Josephine. I took that name, with all its magic, and gave appearance to my complex, contradictory Josephine, who integrated two biographies: during WW II, Beuys was a pilot of the German army, serving a totalitarian regime; I spent my “best years” in a totalitarian system, as a pilot’s (and ex-military pilot) daughter. She was half dressed as a Hitler-jugend girl and half as a German pilot, with a red Beuys stamp on her back and a huge smile. I stood for three hours at the entrance of the Museum of Modern Art’s Salon in Belgrade, shaking hands with all the visitors.

In another performance, you fought with your brother. What is "aggression” for you?
“Hopscotch” (1996) is a very important performance for me. It presented two parallel streams of survival: of myself as artist, and of my younger brother Bojan, as a kick boxer. During the last decade Mafia suffocated Yugoslavian sports; for that reason, my brother left kickboxing at 21, despite being the Yugoslavian and Balkans champion, European Golden Kick-Boxer and World vice-champion. I had to cry to persuade him to combat with me and to promise I’d be properly dressed (he didn’t like at all my shaved, naked performances). My brother and I belong to very different social groups and have opposite personalities: I was happy to underline the beauty of our differences, to let two different energies explode inside the gallery space.

“What is aggressiveness?” would be interesting to ask bosses of TV stations, politicians and advertising executives. I was interested in analysing how the particular aggressiveness that was in the air in Yugoslavia could be carried and transformed by individuals.

How important is the staging, the theatrical dimension of your work?
For me authenticity and preciseness are very important. In most of the actions I have done, I used only elements already existing on location. For example, in 1998, I developed the project "Etre une princesse"/“Being a princess” – for/in the Château Beaumanoir. It was a small edition of 11 colour photographs of me dressed in 19th century clothes and underwear from the castle. I posed in the bedroom, bathroom, dining room and the garden. Works were then hung in original Saint Pierre’s family wooden frames, in the Pink Salon. This project deals with French history, my hosts’ family tradition, my own identity and the dreams of every little girl. By the way, the Count and Countess loved it; we even printed some postcards afterwards…

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